“Sorry to have stoked your anger, I am sure it was there already. Goodluck.” Not angry, Tino, and nice to meet you.
“If we instantly call anyone that disagrees with us an agent, we make enemies of potential friends. This is part of the reason why many people think we are deluded and psychotic.”
I wonder what those people you reference think when they see posted photos of actual agents here on the forum? Ah, mirth! That phrase is what came before we started using ‘emoticons’. [Image Can Not Be Found]
But ‘deluded and psychotic’…such strong words! I’m sure many of the people I’ve talked with about orgonite think I’m deluded, but psychotic? No, can’t say I’ve encountered that feedback, or seen that word used in that context on this forum, previously. Re: strong words, in this thread we’ve so far you’ve used the words ‘deluded’, ‘psychotic’, ‘plagued’, and ‘socalled good people’ within the context of orgonite gifters.
For the record, I do not feel that everyone who disagrees with me is an agent – that would, indeed, be deluded, at best. However, I have subjectively concluded that the marketing and selling of proprietary orgonite that is supposedly stronger but actually weaker is a divide-and-conquer/harry-the-opposition tactic being used to ill purpose by, yes, actual agents , within the larger context of the orgonite movement. Because selling people fancy, expensive orgonite that is supposedly strong – but is actually weaker !- makes duped customers spend more money on gifting while making them less effective.
And it’s cheering to me, boundlessly, that it’s the best defensive measure they’ve got. I’m also glad for the opportunity to openly discuss the thesis, because it is exposure that parasites fear the most, after all.
To provide context, at this moment I have a Carol Croft HP in my pocket and one of DB’s ‘Special Creations’ on my desk. Those improved devices actually work – vs. the con-job weak stuff those people sold you. That said, I don’t think Carol or DB would recommend tactical gifting with improved devices, simply from a cost-benefit ratio, nor would they say ‘get rid of all your other orgonite devices and replace them with ours!’ Sidebar: please see Gare’s ‘massive Thai gifting campaign’ thread for hilarious photos of gigantic, stacked up pyramids made out of hundreds of TB’s made from simple, tactical orgonite.
“I admit I would have handled the orgonite improver differently from Don….I would have said lets hear it. Then if it was simplifying orgonite I would have said thanks…if it made it complicated I would have said no thanks…after trying it out. No deal.”
This clarifies that you are seeking simple, not complicated orgonite. However, since the person Don dialogued with clearly referenced “proprietary orgonite objects” from the get-go, and that “he’s worked very hard over the years to improve orgonite” (thus more complicated, less-simple), I’m at a loss as to why you would need to try his wares out before you said no thanks. Given that, as we know, you are seeking simple, not complicated orgonite.
But, that aside, the ‘improved’ folks told you, during long discourse, that it was more complicated…and you ordered it, anyway, despite your clear mission to seek simple, not complicated orgonite. And, upon receipt, you found it was weaker …did you send it back to them and ask for your money back? If someone sold me something they said worked better and it didn’t, I know I sure would.
Tino, please know that I’m not watching for you, particularly, just watching, and providing my subjective assessment of what I see and think.