Pressure Orgonite

THE PRESSURE OF WATER IS THE WEIGHT OF THE WATER THAT IS ABOVE THE OBJECT.
APPROXIMATELY 1 LT = 1 KG. DIVIDED IN CENTIMETERS 100 CM = 1KG .
450 MT UNDER WATER = 450 PER SQUARE CENTIMETER.

IF THE OBJECT IS POROUS EG A SPONGE THE PRESSURE WILL NOT AFFECT IT.

DEALING WITH EARTH PIPES AND ORGONITE, HOW THEY WILL BEHAVE UNDER DEEP SEA.

RELATING ALSO OTHER PROBLEMS OF AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT, LOW TEMPERATURE, CORROSION ET AL.

AIMING AT PRODUCING ORGONITE GIFTING THAT IS EFFECTIVE AND LASTS LONG TIME.

**Fun element:** 
underwater bacteria excrete a polymer, maybe somebody is growing orgonite under the sea using the bacteria and adding metal shavings? 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC167774/

**For calculating volumes, force, pressure, here some link** 
https://aqua-calc.com 

https://www.translatorscafe.com/

**A bathymetry map for the Adriatic Sea.**

 

WARNING
Water temperature at bottom of the ocean is LOW from -2 Celsius to 2 Celsius. Mediterranean is 13 Celsius.
It may affect resin strength, is better to avoid introducing powders of minerals inside the orgonite used at low tempereature, it may effect the bond with the crystalline molecules of the resin.


HERE IS SOME LINK TO MANUFACTURERS OF RESIN THAT SEEM TO HAVE DATASHEETS CONTAINIG TECHNICAL INFO.

Also a link to a seller website that shows additctives such as minerals and metal that may make harder composite.

[https://thefibreglassshop.co.uk/]

[https://www.masterbond.com]

[https://www.smooth-on.com/-Documents-Dur]

[https://www.corrosionresins.com/web/corr]

[https://poolkemie.it]

TOWARD GOOD PRACTICE, LOOKING FOR ANSWERS:
We need to contact manufacturers and ask what is their experience and knowledge.

QUESTIONS:

1 Do we nead to make the resin mix harder with addictives such as glass microspheres, minerals, kaolin, etc?

2 Do I need to build orgonite with a structure that reinforce, for example a honeycomb skeleton from ultra hard material?

3 Do I need to source for specific resin utilized by marine industry, underwater piping industry?

4 Is epoxy resin a solution that will provide results that are worth the extra cost compared to polyester resin?

5 Encasing and protecing, is this an easier way to approach the deep water resistance?

PRACTICALS

Encasing orogonite in resitant containers of stainless steel, hard radial compression, pressure, and corrosion and moisture resistant plastics (PVC, et al) These containers can be filled up their entire volume with orgonite and once their are closed can further be sealed with epoxy glue, or special polymer films and tapes industrial grade.

  • Typical example a money box safe. Cooking pan with lid made in stainless steel, metal bottles with screw on lid. Hard plastic containers, for tools, briefcases.

  • Further reinforecement inside the container for example orgonite inside tubes, trying also various arrangements, reinforcements metal.

  • ‘Plumbing’ put orgonite in stainless steel metal tubes that have a screw cap lid so to close hermetically, Alternatively source what particular aluminium alloy that is compatible under sea. Brass is expensive since could be corroded in the long run by the electrolysis.

HELP WITH INFO MANY THANKS

Material property data, here you can use the search form to find info on property of material of all types.
https://www.matweb.com/index.aspx

One question if anyone knows, what is the effect of water pressure on the open part of a tube that is merged in the sea, is the water going to counter act the pressure from above ?

NO EXTRA CARE has to be taken with orgonite [u:tbshlkcq]regarding underwater pressures:

See the whole article:

https://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=685

If a giant squid has a soft body, how can it survive in such deep water pressure, when even the best submarines can’t got as deep that deep?

The simple answer is that fluids are incompressible, whereas air (in the sub) is not.
There are four phases of matter: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. Solids and liquids have a constant physical volume, and that volume does not change regardless of the pressure. Gasses and plasmas expand to fill whatever volume they are contained within, and the pressure they exert is determined by their density within their container and their pressure.

Now, a submarine is basically a metal container filled with air, and there is just enough air in a submarine to exert the atmospheric pressure at sea level. If the sub goes underwater, the amount of air within it does not change (unless there is a leak, of course), so the pressure within the sub remains the same. The pressure outside the sub, however, is determined by the depth. As a result, you have a tremendous difference in the pressure inside the sub (which pushes the walls of the sub outward), and the pressure outside it (which acts to crush it). If the difference is too much that the net pressure is too great for the walls of the sub to withstand, it collapses.
A squid, on the other hand, contains no air; its blood is liquid and its flesh solid. It is under the same colossal pressure from the weight of the water, but since the material that it is made of is incompressible, it exerts the same pressure back, holding it up.

Hi Edu,

you solved the problem for something like the empty tube, since the water around and inside the pipe will be indentical it will balance the pressure on the pipe. But
solids are subject to pressure that is why they are tested and mesured for their resistance. Try yourself to put a rock inside a vice and turn eventually the rock (or the vice) must break, this is the compression test demostration.
Looking up on matweb.com for polyester mineral or glass reinforced it seems able to achieve very strong resistance, but yet I am not sure how to read the data in the tables.
What about making the orgonite modelles empty round tubes that are not closed so the water that will go inside the open tube in order to counter balance the water pressure? A la squid? A la donaught?

Here is an extract about corrosion of copper pipes,
https://www.corrosionist.com/co…rosion.htm

’ … The corrosion rate of several types of copper in a 20-yr test averaged 1 pm/yr (0.05 mpy) in an industrial atmosphere, 0.8 pm/yr (0.03 mpy) in a marine atmosphere, and 0.5 pm/yr (0.02 mpy) in a rural atmosphere

Copper Pipe Corrosion

Copper has good resistance to corrosion by all types of freshwater. Corrosion rates of Copper Pipe are from 5 to 25 microm/yr (0.2 to o 1 mpy). Corrosion rates for water saturated with air and carbon dioxide are an order of magnitude greater than those for municipal or distilled water. Copper also has good resistance to corrosion in seawater. Because of its outstanding resistance to fouling by marine organisms, it is widely used for sheathing on surfaces exposed to seawater. Copper is sometimes used in seawater piping, but copper pipes are subject to corrosion-erosion where the flow velocity is greater than 0.9 to 1.2 m/s (3 to 4ft/s). These velocities are often attained at changes in copper pipe cross section or flow direction.

Pitting and Crevice Corrosion of Copper Pipe

Although the failure of domestic copper plumbing systems is rare, pitting failure occurs in cold-water lines that conduct aggressive well waters. Aggressive well waters are those contaminated with corrosive compounds. Hot-water pitting is rare and is usually associated with a soft water. Copper is susceptible to crevice corrosion attack.

Galvanic Corrosion of Copper Pipe

Couples of copper and aluminum or copper and steel can lead to severe galvanic corrosion (see also Galvanic Series of Metals in Seawater or Galvanic Corrosion Chart).
The degree of risk in coupling copper to other metals in water, salt solutions, or acids depends upon the effectiveness of the solution as an electrolyte…’

Try yourself to put a rock inside a vice and turn eventually the rock (or the vice) must break, this is the compression test demostration.

This is a different situation because this will aply a directional pressure only in a restricted part of the rock, wich will them deform (very little) and break and crumble towards the areas out of the vice grip.

Underwater pressure is different because the pressure is evenly distributed all around the surface of the object. The pressure on opposing sides nullify each other so it’s just converted in internal stress of the material. In the case of any solid object, like a common Tower Buster, it will respond with equal pressure against the liquid surrounding it, and nothing will happens. There is no resulting force acting on it, so it won’t be torn apart.

For a small TB which simply has to be there, the internal stress is just unimportant.

Edu,
I like your explanation, so the gravity force keeps sending the object down vertically until eventually the sea bottom intervene to block the descend of the object,
and in the end one side of the TB that is touching bottom of the sea would which not be living in the water fluid but in contact with the solid soil of the sea bottom, can that side also be balanced even if it a different type of matter, solid instead a whole one like the sea water fluid?

Yes.

Hi Edu,
is good that we can talk about this, after last night I slept over it, this morning it seemed clear enough that gravity behave the same way under the water. So if I was to sleep at the bottom of the sea my pillow will be pressed by the weight of my head. It is important that pillows behave coherently. With a bit of kindness the head works fine with pillows.

Thanks