One thing this thread is doing, at least for me (based on the personal email that this has been generating) , is to point up the confusion and even distraction that can go on around the publication of simple instructions for a simple device. It’s certainly useful to have an opportunity to clear some of this up, though.
Also, there’s nothing at all wrong with calling basic instructions into question because if the instructions are practical that can be highlighted. Nobody who posted in this thread has questioned the basic instructions, I hasten to add! Everything that was reported is valid, even instructive–especially because Javiera got the same results that Dan did after she repeated his experiment in a similarly HAARP-assaulted area. It’s the discussion that generated a lot of doubt and confusion among the less experienced EW readers, that’s all.
An example of that, in an email I got today, is the question of whether or not to encase crystals in the cloudbusters’ pipes in resin. I hadn’t thought about it in years because we simply don’t do that in our cloudbusters but Carol had an interesting experience with that just last week, when making her pyramids.
Its no secret that she uses Lemu crystals in them. When she can’t get Lemurian seed crystals she uses diamantina crystals, which also have the same ‘offworld’ characteristic higher ring that Lemus have. On one of the pyramids she cast last week the Lemu’s point sticks out the top because the resin didn’t completely soak the copper bits in the apex of the pyramid. She was bummed at first, then liked the feel of the pyramid and crystal so much that she kept it for the house.
Lemurian crystals are the only ones she advises leaving partly exposed when sitting in orgonite because she says that these can’t be ‘hijacked’ the way just about any other crystal in that position apparently can be. She doesn’t know whether a diamantina crystal has this characteristic but I’m sure she could find out through experimentation.
I asked her why regular quartz crystals in cloudbuster pipes aren’t hijacked by the sewer rat agencies and their contractors and she promptly said that it’s because they’re working so hard on one job that they can’t be misdirected. Apparently encasing the crystals interferes with the energy dynamic, though.
Another person who is following this thread asked whether the conical spiral coil is necessary in simple Holy Handgrenades and I forgot to answer that in my email response so I hope she’s reading this: the simple spiral coils, according to what Carol saw, simply cause the field effect to get bigger, perhaps because orgone enjoys moving along that shape of coiled wire, so it gives off more happy energy. No kidding! [Image Can Not Be Found] . We learned the hard way, at Montauk Point, that a HHg ought to land point-up. In that case, we had gifted that polluted, angry red vortex at the lighthouse by tossing a cone-shaped HHg in the uindergrowth. A few hours later we returned to check the results and the vortex was only partly fixed–had a lopsided characteristic, too. Fortunately, I found that HHg, which had landed on its site, set it upright again and after a breakfast at Mr John’s Pancake House in the village we returned and Carol found the vortex had cleaned up, was spinning the right way and looked brighter and lighter. We had gifted/healed the pinched-off World Trade Center vortex the day before [Image Can Not Be Found]; (March, 2001). It doesn’t seem to make more than a marginal difference whether the spiral coils are wound clockwise or counterclockwise, by the way, but we make them all clockwise, like the orientationn of threads on the point of a screw. In Cesco’s coils and the Saint Buster’s Button coil form the wire moves CW and CCW, by the way.
Years ago, there were a few fakers who constantly came up with sometimes glamorous (sometimes goofy beyond belief) modifications of the basic devices and there were enough sycophants in the open forums that whenever these very, very busy guys and gals came out with a new pronouncement the entire flock of sycophants chimed in and stated that they, too, would immediately adopt these changes. Mainly, the result was that the devices were less effective on account of the adulterations, of course, some of which conflicted with the energy dynamics of the device and with each other. It turned into a real clusterf*&K and I got pretty discouraged, then Carol and I spent ten thousand bucks and a couple of months in the Zapporium (our camper) ‘proving’ the simple towerbuster all over again in then-polluted Atlanta and things seemed to get back on track [Image Can Not Be Found] by the grace of God. Thanks, Dan, for being patient with me under the circumstances because I was a little afraid that your present enquiry might be turned into another debacle at the hands of sleepless mischief makers. I’m awfully glad that it didn’t!
A few people, including Kelly and Cesco, have introduced some useful modifications and additions to the basic technology and techniques we all use. This and other productive activities and offerings earned them some very good reputations over the years. After field testing, Carol and I adopt valid new suggestions and share them with everyone else after that, giving due credit to the sources.
What we won’t do, though, is automatically accept and promote something just because the source has earned a good reputation, before. I’m still seeing a little bit of tendency among the participants of this unorganized network to just imitate others without assessing the offerings or their specific applications, though, and I think it’s constructive to call attention to that tendency without pointing at anyone in particular. I empathize with anyone’s urge to shoot the messenger (me), too, of course. Nobody likes a buzzkill but I suggest that doing things in a constructive, rational way produces even more euphoria so why not choose that path?
In light of the new developments that the chats are uncovering, thanks to our psychics, I"m going to take the risk of seeming annoying by insisting that we stick to the same quality of science standards that Dr Reich exemplified and this is probably a discernment issue because it involves intellectual honesty and accountability. As you probably know, getting more information and insights makes us all even more accountable. I think that’s a wonderful thing, not something to run away from.
The tendency to focus too much on details at the expense of a broader view of reality can be tempered, in this case, with the knowledge (at least I base my approach on my own extensive field experience) that everything that needs to be done with orgonite can surely be done without crystals, without special shapes, without coils or ‘intention,’ because it’s the metal/resin mix that does it all once we hit a target withit, after all, and adding the other features simply enables us to get more done with slightly less metal and resin. The features without the orgonite are not much use, no matter how pretty and fantastic they might look.
In the case of cloudbusters, you could stick pipes in a glob of metal/resin mix and can still affect the atmosphere in a positive way. Crystals and multiple pipes simply make a cloudbuster more efficient and if you’re interactively using the cloudbuster, then additional coils, gems, specific metals, Succor Punch, etc., might help you fine tune and enhance your effort if these have been combined intelligently. Unless you’re interacting with that one, it’s probably no more effective than the mass of orgonite and the pipe ratios would be without the fancy stuff. This is a primary, essential distinction, not a side comment, in case you didn’t know.
When we first came back to Idaho after experimenting with our first orgonite cloudbuster for a few months, Carol and I read in the Missoula newspaper about an Indian man, travelling around Western Montana, who was getting paid by ranchers and farmers to make rain in their drought-ridden areas. His technique makes my point: he took off his shoes, waded into brooks and creeks, jammed a few lengths of copper pipe in the bottom, pointing at specific areas of sky and he got rain consistently that way, and got paid [Image Can Not Be Found];
I’m hoping that the discussion of fancy stuff will move in an organic and timely way toward the area where these discussions will bear the most fruit: in the design, construction, application and observation of personal and interpersonal devices.
We’ve used our half-scale cloudbuster productively for a couple of years. It’s loaded with gems, a Cesco coil, Lemus in the pipes and has a grand Succor Punch in the middle of the pipe lenghts that’s made with a larger Lemu xtal bound by an extral big mobius coil to an obsidian spear point. This is an interactive cloudbuster and pretty soon I’m going to add a small solar panel to it so I don’t have to change the battery any more and I’ll keep it outside with the other two cloudbusters, here at the airfield, so I can get more flying days this winter [Image Can Not Be Found]
Dooney, STevo, Carol and I dropped a couple of little bastardized, three-pipe cloudbusters in Yellowstone Lake to help soothe the earth there and soften the seismic activity. Carol had me put some special crystals in the base of that one for the elementals. To keep the loose crystals from falling out of the pipes and to ensure that it landed on the lake bottom in a fairly upright attitude, we added some flotation to the top end of the pipes. You could say this was interactive for the elementals—we give the elementals Cesco coils in the orgonite mix on rare occasions like this one, too.
I’ve hoarded six nice Lemus for the pipes in the four-gallon, egg-shaped cloudbuster base, for which I finally finished a silicon mold (took me three years of intermittent labor to make the mold and its bracing 
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I’m going to glue each of these atop a Cesco coil—six smaller coils in teh pipes and one large Cesco coil in the middle of the base with perhaps that special black tourmaline piece that I got in Namibia. I’ll use ten foot long pipes on this one because it feels right to me (I’ll check the effects with Carol, Kelly, Dooney, STevo, Ryan, Linda and any other psychic or sensitive who crosses my path or gets within grabbing range). It’s going to have a MOther of All Solar-powered Succor Punches along the pipes. When I’m flying around mountain top death ray arrays I want this CB pointing at my targets from the ground, where I take the plane off its trailer… I’ll also make a one-third-scale or so, streamlined CB with Succor Punch for my airplane’s wingstruts to point at whatever I’m flying toward. We busted up a lot of HAARP storms in our path with the boat CB and bad weather is much worse for planes than it is for boats, of course. Might be fun to fly toward a black helicopter, too
See what a leap of blind faith one would take to assume that everything i just described is essential or even worth copying in your particular case? I do things this way because it’s a lot of fun and often empowering, not because someone else did it. I hope most people will just stick to the simplest possible recommendations for the bulk of their gifting work, as I still do, because this really is the shortcut to getting grand confirmations, unless you particularly have a feel for what to add or change. Most of us don’t have that gift, though some of us, including me, often get inspired hunches (and also some uninspired ones, it should be said) and it’s really okay because we can all Make Big Things Happen all on our own with the simplest approach!
It’s human nature to be drawn hypnotically to the arcane, titillating, overly technical and mysterious but the work we’re doing isn’t like that at all. Rather, it’s miraculous, empowering, healing, inspiring/inspired and educational. Don’t you agree that the latter bunch of adjectives is more desirable than the former? I’m content to leave the pseudo-awakened hordes and smelly MKid sycophants to the disinfo sites, channelers, the ennervating ‘I am GOD!’ guru stable, pipe dreams and personality histrionics because what we’re all accomplishing, here, is absolutely unique, is historic and genuinely liberating for our beleaguered species and our previously-stained, pirated planet. I hope we can focus on these constructive aspects as much as possible and will even constantly watch for opportunities to post about how we experience all that. When we talk about what we know, the knowledge gets assimilated better in ourselves and our readers/listeners, after all, and we’ve expressed our commitment. The world odor has programmed us all to discard the notions of commitment, intellectual honesty, courtesy and even effective communication (using pretty newage terminology–sterile, exclusive; mind-numbing–is probably less effective than using heartfelt grunts and squeaks, for isntance) so when we actually develop these habits and characteristics, it’s no wonder that we feel more empowered and are happier for it.
~Don
