some say they are 32 others 34 maybe they are 33
but surely intended to be sacrified instead of the 32-34 chilean minors
http://www.demotix.com/news/451960/73-d
try this one to see how they don’t want you to know it
The Mapuche´s have been at struggle with the “huinca” (white man) since the Spanish came to these latitudes. They are a warrior people par excellance, the Inca’s could not dominate them, the Spanish could not, and the criollos (Chileans) have only managed to opress them but not defeat them either. The French have a special connection with the Mapuches, Orelie Antoine a french man, convinced some Mapuche chiefs that he could restore that people’s greatness if he was thier king, they agreed and thus was founded the kingdom of Araucanía and Patagonia. When the Chilean president herd of this, he ordered Orelie’s arrest, he was put in an insane asilum and then deported to France. His desentents, to this day call themselves the princes of the kingdom of Patagonia. Truth is stranger than fiction eh? Ever since then, and to this day, any european getting involved politically with the Mapuche are immediately arrested by the police and deported [Image Can Not Be Found] In any case having a king is pretty out of caracter for the Mapuches, they have never and still are not a centralized society, only coming together for war, to repel invaders. No other indigenous group in the Americas has been so succesful at war against invaders, the Incas were completely defeated by them, the Spanish could never defeat them (the cities the Spanish built near Mapuche lands were completely destroyed 10 times by the Mapuche) , the Spanish conquistador “Pedro de Valdivia” was captured and his heart was eaten by the top Mapuche warriors.
BTW Mapuche’s are being tried for setting pine plantations of fire, asaulting and burning trucks, invading farms etc. This of course, is not peaceful or legal actions but still they do not deserve 50 or more year sentences for doing this while a normal arson case would carry a sentence 10 times lighter. Also, I believe that many of these actions are being carried out by agent provocatours to latter be blamed on Mapuche leaders. That said, the Mapuches are pretty agressive and stubborn. Unfortunately I have not been able to gift those areas yet. Mapuches are the only ones in the country to whom this law is applied. Rioting miners, burning company trucks, for instance are tried by regular law, even though the offenses are very similar. Mapuche’s have held numerous hunger strikes in the recent past, and only now have they been able to get massive media attention inside the country. The terrorist law is going to be modified and military tribunalas for civilians (an inheritance of the Pinochet regime) are going to be annulled, it is already under legislation and it will happen. There is no way the government can get around this, this time. All this media attention and the governments inability to divert attention to other issues, all of this in the middle of the media frenzy caused by the miner’s plight and only 6 months after the massive earthquake, is a minor miracle. Another “side effect” to the thousands of TBs in and around Santiago perhaps?
cheers,
Alejandro
thank you Ale for your bright intel!
Your welcome Laurent, check out this site:
http://www.araucanie.com/araucania/index.html
its is quite interesting [Image Can Not Be Found] Also there you can find links to lots of other info and Mapuche organizations.
Some historical background here on the 300 year long war of Arauco (mapuche vs Spanish) longest war in history, still ongoing according to some: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W……_of_Arauco , yeah I know, its wikipedia, sorry for being lazy. Lautaro is a hero to many young history students in Chile (including myself when I was in school [Image Can Not Be Found] , he´s the Mapuche general (toqui) who was most successful against the Spanish, captured the conquistador Pedro de Valdivia and with other top warriors ate his heart in order to absorb his energy, yummy.
cheers,
Alejandro
unfortunately for my hint he felt (Lautaro) in the trick to take off enregy from somebody else becoming parasitic too like all those old farts claiming to be an elite.
orgonise everyday keep the crap away
That was 1553, I definitely would not call Lautaro a parasite. In war for survival things are not pretty. It is common practice among all warrior people to do that kind of thing, it is a sort of respect to the strength of the adversary. Human sacrifice was not practiced by the Mapuche in a systematic way as it was by other people’s such as the Aztecs, Mayas and Incas, this was only done in battle. Are you a parasite then, when you absorb the Qi of food from plants or animals? If you eat chicken hearts? (those are quite delicious btw) . Would you call Credo Mutwa a parasite because he ate the flesh of a chitahuri? I wouldn´t , although I wouldn´t want to do that. IMO, being a parasite is about an attitude, manipulating people to feed off their energy, being a sneaky little rat, that is. Parasites don´t want the host to find out they exist, so they can keep feeding. I don´t think the old mapuche practice of absorbing the enemies energy after defeat falls into that category, there is no deceit in that, it may not be pretty, cannibalism may be taboo for us, but its is not parasitism. Technically if you kill someone and eat them you are not a a parasite, you are a predator and a cannibal, that doesn´t mean its OK, morally especially today.
The Mapuche have a very beautiful spirituality that I think we can all appreciate its simplicity and lack of BS:
I copied this from and post of Juan Antonio on EW:
http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/viewtopic.php?t=2256
[quote:1hp88u1r]First, forgive my bad English.
Andrea is right in the interaction between indigenous peoples and the elemental spirits.
I want to report a history of our ancestors . It has relation with sylphs or elementary spirits:
In the world Mapuche, the Füta-chachai and Ñuke-Papai created all with its hands. They left each thing in their place and in each thing they left a Ngen.The Ngen was an attendant of God (elementary spirits):
Protectors of the mountain (ngen-winkul).
Water protectors (ngen-ko).
The native forest (ngen-mawida).
The stone protectors (ngen-kurra).
Protectors of the wind ((ngen-kürrëf).
Protectors of fire (ngen-kütral).
Protective spirit Lake or sea (ngen-lafkén).
Protective spirit of herbal (ngen-lawén).
Earth protectors (ngen-mapu)…
Then did the man and the woman. Füta-chachai and ñuke-papai put an ngen on every thing so that thing not die.
The NGen gives life to things forever. The Ngen is which dominates, predominates, governs and available; but also that cares, protects and safeguard.
Each ngen lives inside that element. Virgin nature in place of residence is a necessary condition for its existence.
The ngen are animated beings, active and comply with the mandates of God. Often interact with men only when they try to make use of the natural element in charge.
Mapuche man that accesses an ngen domain must engage an affectionate and respectful dialogue with him.
You must first request permission.should justify why you need that element.And must express its appreciation to the ngen. It is necessary to give him a small gift thus complying with the traditional principle of reciprocity.
I think and feel that influence among elementary and the indigenous world is genuine, cannot say the same of Paulo Coelho (Writer New Age).
Summary of “The spirits of nature in the Mapuche religiosity” María Ester Grebe.
cheers,
Alejandro
I must admit I was slightly caricatural, Ale, anyway my boosting request is still current for these brave ones because time is going shorter for them. Finally we are all Mapuches in our corner!
Let’s overturn the nightmare in a shining lucid dream.
boosting and orgonising everyday turns DOR in POR by the way.
Sorry, I just felt the need to defend Lautaro, my childhood hero I agree, a good boost for the Mapuche is in order
Alejandro
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?Article
Mapuches End Hunger Strike after Agreement with Chile Government
SANTIAGO – Thirty jailed Mapuche Indians ended a long hunger strike – in most cases dating back to July 12 – after reaching an agreement with the government, the archbishop who mediated the talks said.
The news, also confirmed by the spokeswoman for some of the jailed protesters, Natividad Llanquileo, was announced Friday after two extensive meetings between representatives of the Indians and the government – one in Concepcion with the participation of that southern city’s archbishop, Ricardo Ezzati, and another in Temuco with the presence of Interior Minister Rodrigo Hinzpeter.
“As is public knowledge, the government has sponsored legal reforms aimed at modifying the so-called ‘anti-terrorist law’ and the act (that allows) trials of civilians by military tribunals,” Ezzati told reporters.
The archbishop, who read a statement to reporters, added that with the effort to enact the legal reforms now underway the government decided to withdraw the charges filed against the Mapuches under the anti-terror law.
They will instead be charged with crimes under common criminal law, according to Ezzati, whose statement was cheered by family members of the jailed men.
Thus far, eight Mapuches jailed in Concepcion, 13 in Temuco, one in Angol, one in Valdivia, two in Lebu and two other Mapuches identified as Andres Gutierrez Coña and Huaiquilaf Cadin have ended their hunger strike.
Authorities said they are hopeful a remaining group of eight Mapuche hunger strikers will announce an end to their protest on Saturday.
The Indians, who regarded themselves as political prisoners, were demanding that they not be tried under the draconian anti-terrorism law imposed during the 1973-1990 dictatorship of Gen. Augusto Pinochet.
That legislation allows the state to hold people for up to two years without charges, to restrict defense attorneys’ access to evidence and to use testimony from anonymous witnesses.
The hunger strikers are also demanding that they not be tried for the same charges in both civilian and military courts.
An attempt to negotiate an end to the hunger strike had failed on Monday when the Indians were unable to secure assurances that the anti-terror law would not be applied in their cases.
Although President Sebastian Piñera’s administration promised not to apply the law in certain open cases, it said it could not make that pledge on behalf of all branches of government.
However, a meeting Thursday between several female relatives of the jailed Mapuches and Chilean Interior Minister Rodrigo Hinzpeter at La Moneda presidential palace facilitated the resumption of the talks.
In recent years, Mapuche militants have been torching vehicles, highway toll booths and lumber shipments as part of a campaign to reclaim ancestral lands from the agribusiness concerns and forest products companies that now control much of the southern region of Araucania.
Chile’s government is currently holding more than 100 Mapuches – most of them still awaiting trial – for politically motivated crimes against property.
In addition to demanding the scrapping of the anti-terror act, the hunger strikers are calling for the “demilitarization” of the poor southern region of Araucania, heartland of the 650,000-strong Mapuche nation, which lost 95 percent of its land during a “pacification” campaign at the end of the 19th century.
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