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[PahinhWinh]

Hanh mitakuyapi. I was asked by Azti to post on Global Warming. It being a big subject, it will have many parts.

Since he asked me to talk about it from the Traditional perspective as well as from facts, we’ll start there. The basic question being, “Is this a real phenomenon or a scam?” Trust me – global warming is real .

Whatever a handful of washichu dummies did to manipulate data is irrelevant. Global warming is real. There are too many reliable people keeping track of such things who have published good data for it to all be a scam. Also, herding scientists is a lot like herding cats, Indns, or buffalo. For every ‘expert’ who is for sale or intimidatable, there are a dozen who are not; maybe more. And of course, there are the prophesies of all the IndigenUs cultures of the world, including Turtle Island. From Australia to Zimbabwe, every culture’s Traditions speak of this happening.

And if nothing else, there’s the horrendous increase in human population & human activity of every heat-forming kind. Everything in the universe being finite, it is only reasonable that we will see rises in the temperature of the biosphere. Currently, our Holy Mother the Earth is carrying over twice as many humans as She is built to provide a decent living for, while including the nearly numberless variety of other species; the Inyan Oyate (Rock Nation), the Inaji Oyate (Standing Nation / anything that grows on the earth), the Mni Oyate (Water People), the Hupahu Oyate (Winged People), the Hu Takunisni Oyate (those with no legs)… We’re all in this canoe together & it leaks. It leaks because of humans’ arrogance; especially the majority culture’s. Read my post on Arrogance in my posts about being a Pipe Keeper for more on arrogance & the results of it.

In 2000, volcanic activity worldwide suddenly began to increase. By 2005, the Aleuts had moved off their Traditional homeland – the ‘what’ Islands? – to places far inland on the continent, where their Traditional Prophesies have taught for eons they will be safeR. Not ‘safe’ – “safeR”.
Everyone’s prophecies teach that when certain things happen, the world as we know it will end. And it will not be pretty. Many of those things have happened or continue to happen, such as clear-cutting rain forests in Canada and South America. Driving Hummers. Over-fishing. Etc.
And bad changes continue to occur throughout the biosphere. Some are things humans are doing or not doing; others are in response. It doesn’t matter – in the long run, the net effect is the same. Nasty.

Five or six years ago, a friend of mine who is Inupiat, & is married to a Yupik man, emailed me a stunner… not only were their summers much longer & warmer, but that morning when the family woke up, they found they couldn’t get out their cabin door. It seems their cabin had dropped into the tundra several feel during the night! The door was blocked. Windows in cabins on the tundra are very small, of course. Their 10-year-old son managed to get out through a window & they passed him a coat, then he got a shovel & began digging out the doorway enough for the rest of the family to get out & finish the job! Then they had to face raising the cabin up out of the hole. Think about that. It boggles the mind.

To build a cabin on the tundra means making a pad of logs for it to sit on. A bit of melting every summer is expected. Everything up there sits on pads of logs.
I have no clue how they got the Internet, but my guess is some kind of satellite link. The generator sits on its own pad, which was lucky or they’d have had no heat for the night. Summers way up there are still cold at night…
As I recall, when she emailed me she said (a) to not expect to hear from her for awhile & (b) if I had any ideas to send them fast because they needed them. Being of an engineering bent, I had some, so sent them, & we all got lucky & it helped. But they still had their work cut out for them. Raising a house is a huge job no matter if it’s a piece at a time or…

And of course there are all their other buildings, including their privy -

For me, that pretty much defines “global warming & its dangers”.

Mitakuye oiasin – All {are} my relatives. Another way of saying “there is no us or them – there’s only us, & we’re all in this together. No virgins involved.” For anyone who wants to scoff at environmentalists, call them names, etc… they may be a bit off in left field on somet hings, but overall, they’re on the right track. The scoffers need to get rid of their sophomorism & join the parade. We Traditionals are the original environmentalists – who else would automatically refer to the earth as Our Holy Mother? Used to be, before “modernism”, everyone was our way; i.e., environmentally oriented. Think about that…

[Anonymous]

Global warming in what timeframe? The Earth is an ecosystem of immense proportion. Things here happen on a scale of thousands to tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years. Modern man has been here but a moment in time compared to how long the Earth has existed.

So when you say global warming you’re talking about a purported phenomenon thats only relevant for recorded scientific history which only goes back maybe 300 years. Sure scientists can conjecture what happened earlier from looking at lava flows and similar things but they can’t say for certain that these second order effects really mean anything specific or even that prior knowledge of ecosystem progression applies because it might all be part of an even larger ecocycle thats beyond our current ability to comprehend. It might even be part of an ecocycle whose timeframe is longer than the current age of Earth which, in this case means it is new and different but also that its normal and expected.

Something most people don’t know because the information was basically suppressed was that during the late 80’s when the scientists were claiming the Earth had warmed up 3 degrees (it had), late in that decade there was a year of a lot of volcanic eruptions that kicked enough crap up into the upper atmosphere that the planet actually cooled back down 3 degrees quickly. Thats how an ecosystem is supposed to operate. The Earth is no dummy. She knows whats going on and is doing her best to head these things off in a timeframe that minimizes turmoil. The one thing she can’t usually do is instantaneous change. Change could occur over tens, or even hundreds of years, sometimes quicker.

So be careful of declaring things global warming (which BTW is no longer the catch phrase of the climate scientist – climate change now is, which is a royal crock) because there isn’t enough information available to really document whats supposed to happen or not in the normal eco-cycle of this planet. In my view, anything that happens over a 50-100 year cycle, though maybe locally significant doesn’t even come close to telling the whole story nor do I believe given the current state of science, an accurate picture of the correct cycle can be stated.

Lots of people are making lots of money off this and there are lots more people following those scientists coat-tails as is always the case and none of them can say with any certainty that whats happening now isn’t normal in the grand scheme of things. They’ll surely tell you they can but don’t believe them unless they can provide the concrete data to prove it (that’d be raw data, not cooked) because they can’t.

And even if someone can state its different and significant, who’s to say that its not normal in an even larger, longer time period second-order ecocycle that there isn’t enough data to even draw any legitimate conclusions about which is normal for Earth.

Prophecies and predictions, regardless who makes them only tell a story of how things “could” be. Time being what it is and as fluid and changeable as it is, there’s nothing to say that because of a decision by someone to do something slightly different from that expected when those predictions where made, tomorrow we’re not living a different timeline from that of today and if this comes to pass, in this new timeline, the prior predictions are erroneous. The way time really is, its not really known what will happen till it actually does. Not even the divine knows for sure because of the universal law of free will/free choice. Even the divine timeline can change and it does on occasion- always by divine choice but corrective action on a universe scale does happen.

The chat team manipulate timelines all the time in chats. If things were left as they were headed, by now we’d very likely be (the US), an oligarchy (or MUCH worse). The fact that we’re not and that there appears to be no indication things are heading this way anymore (at the moment of writing this) speaks volumes about how flexible, changeable and unpredictable time actually is.

Use predictions as guidance to help avert issues but most assuredly, don’t consider them absolutes. You might just be amazed at how differently things actually turn out because we wind up living a different timeline.

By univeral law (free will/free choice) we’ve all been given the right and power by the divine to effect change as we see fit. That change, which no one, not even the divine knows is going to happen till it does, almost always changes timelines.

As Al Beilek said, “Time is like a rubber band. Time is at our command”. We see things heading down the wrong path, take corrective actions (whether that be psychically, etherically or physically (3d real world) ) and all prior beliefs of whats going to happen are now invalidated because we’re no longer living the prior timeline when those predictions were made. Thing is, aside from those responsible for effecting this change in timelines, no one else will ever know and give when the timeline changes, there’s no guarantee that prior predictions will be corrected to now predict the new eventuality. Time is funny that way.

So be wary of anything you read or hear, especially if it comes from so called “scientists” and use predictions merely as advance warnings of things that “could” happen given the current state of things with no guarantee that any of it will actually come to pass.

It ain’t over till its over and until it is, no one knows for sure exactly whats going to happen. Even looking back to the past isn’t an absolute because timelines can be changed in the past to effect change today and sometimes, changes to the current timeline can propagate changes back in time (the past) and yes the wingmakers do do this on occasion when its necessary to head something off that came into play at the last moment because of a last moment choice of someone, which changed the whole game plan unexpectedly (free will/free choice means that not even the divine knows for certain whats going to happen until it actually does – kind of a hard concept to grasp but its reality).

Is something new and different happening? Most likely. Is it something thats never happened before? No one can say for certain. Is it leading us to some particular outcome. Sure. Is that outcome fixed to the point that prior predictions are a good indication of whats going to come to pass? Absolutely not! The good thing is though, knowing where the current “course” is taking us, allows us to make changes to head off an eventuality we’d rather not see played out and these changes happen all the time.

The way I look at these predictions is simply that they’re an indication and observation that something may be currently wrong (or perhaps broken). We can choose to make changes in many different venues that can and will change the currently believed eventuality and we do all the time.

Gene

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I used to have the Earth Changes Map, the one where most of the land goes under water–threw that away years ago. I think that may be happening on 3d earth and we moved into 4d. Warming may be happenning but it seems to get wetter here, my wife who believes in it says that is the ‘Greenhouse effect’.

If it was actually a bit warmer I may be a convert, but it has to be said all the Global Warming scientists are the usual crowd of Reptoids and psychopaths, like Gore. Maybe they want to make money off the fact, or are looking for fear?

as Gorby said: “The threat of environmental crisis will be the ‘international disaster key’ that will unlock the New World Order.” --Mikhail Gorbachev

and we know most of the Hurricanes and Tsunamis are man made

“We’re all in this canoe together & it leaks. It leaks because of humans’ arrogance; especially the majority culture’s.”

It leaks because we are headed up by psychopaths or reptoids who have had power for thousands of years, and kill any of us who get in the way, whole cultures even.

I list some cultures destroyed http://www.whale.to/b/genocide_h.html

Individuals murdered http://www.whale.to/b/killings_h.html

try doing away with that sort of power. And they trash the animals, plants http://www.whale.to/a/food_inc.html and covertly attack us http://www.whale.to/b/covert_q.html

all part of the plan, trashing Paradise, and they get away with it due to mind control essentially, starting with sexuality which creates violence http://www.whale.to/a/violence_h.html in us. So over 90% of the human population are brainwashed, hardly their fault really.

My wife put 5 Native American photos on the wall with quotes, one is:

Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money. ~Cree Indian Proverb

It always annoys me slightly. There is some truth in that but it in no way gets at the root of the problem which is psychopathy. It is in the same vein as ‘we get the government we deserve’. We may do on a karmic level but it is mostly nonsense, and is just psychopathy propaganda.

also the Tribulation was meant to happen, where all life got wiped out, and that was a few years ago now. Why would Spirit wipe out the surface population? It is like destroying your children–hardly a sign of good parenting!!

Spirit I also call The One, and the One gave Tolkien the story of the Lord of the Rings. The One is ‘Power’, what Don Juan called the mysterious force that pervades the Universe and guides man’s fate. No doubt if we all remained asleep then we would all die in our sleep, as it were.

The One’s emissary on Earth, in perfection, would be a nagual:

“A nagual never lets anyone know that he is in charge. A nagual comes and goes without leaving a trace. That freedom is what makes him a nagual.”—–Don Juan

“Power always makes a cubic centimeter of chance available to a warrior. The warrior’s art is to be perennially fluid in order to pluck it.”

I prefer the Lord of the Rings analogy, disaster beckones, that is the way with all movies to raise the tension–earth disaster, global warming, martial law, underground gulags, psychopathy reigns, wars, genocide, reptoids are 20% of the population etc—but only due to The One’s intervention can we avert disaster, and we all know that. I doubt many people watched the Lord trilogy and realised the One saved their asses too.

the symbol of the One is the Rose, Perfection with thorns, you don’t mess with the One, or he would destroy you as an example, but the One would prefer you choose Love, the Path of the Heart, the Fellowship of the Heart or the One, and the Heart remains invisible, but can be felt. Feeling the power of the One is similar to standing on a rocky outcrop and feeling the stone that is connected to all the stone on the planet. Power feels to be blue in colour, which is the colour of the powerholders, Royal blue, and Navy blue.

feeling the love of the One must be similar to what I felt for about 3 seconds on Salvia, which was like 1,000 times the love you feel when you are in Love. And the One must be who everyone wants to meet, as when in Love the say–‘you are the One’. [Image Can Not Be Found]; In reality you are possesses by the One. That sort of Love tends to write good endings.

in the books by Théun Mares on the Toltec tradition they meditate on a Rose.

You can imagine the One going to Creator High Command and having to explain why he made such a great hash of the Human experiment on Earth, can’t you.

Notice how Dali makes the rose seem alive:
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talking of churches:

“Churches are monuments to self importance.”–Don Juan

I did see a long article on the word Church which I should read:
http://www.wickedshepherds.com/thechris … ormed.html

The Castenada writing helped me see the magic in the world, seeing it as mundane was a triumph of Evil propaganda.

“What Carlos Castaneda writes about has nothing to do with Native Americans. It has to do with a given point of view from one spirit who was designed, how do you say, generating more from the magical than the natural. All of these things are designed to be ideals, they are not meant to be achieved. To provide you with an Ideal to work towards. The now generation is not like the previous generation. Ideals have in many cases become achievable. A little too much in the magical. A Peaceful Warrior has all the attributes.”–Zoosh

I agree with what you say Gene, reality is like a huge hologram with numerous timelines that we can control. So disaster predictions probably get our spirit’s ass into gear to change the future.

probably why we have predators, to fine tune our spirit.