SECRETS OF SEXUAL ECSTASY Book

http://whale.to/a/howe_b.html

Tao Te Ching can be translated as ‘The Way of Nature and the nature of It’s Power’.

Beautiful John. Thank you. These methods are a very beautiful and powerful way to enhance one’s boosting skills. Imagine a fully gifted planet with people walking around filled with the frequency of orgasm and deep heart-opening authentic pleasure.

Here is an interview I did a while back that may compliment what you have shared with us:

http://www.thesourceasia.com/index.php/

Enjoy! hkj

P.S. The “controllers” want you to be castrated by shame, guilt and fear. The reason: if peole really stepped into their true orgasmic heart potential, this planet with all it’s suffering would be transformed in a flash…

Have yet to get page numbers into the word doc! Just done it, had to google it.

Thanks for that. You are right, the biggest sex secret is not ejeculating, so that is why no one knows about it. One of my therapists when I said I didn’t orgams, said don’t be ridiculous you have 5 children! What an idiot, and I was paying her!

Religion is where shame comes from, as if the Devil was in charge below the waist. The ban on pre marriage sex is where much of the problem and violence comes from http://whale.to/a/premarital_sex.html

religious sex propagnda is summed up by Mencken:

“Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time.”

Secondly the ban on polygamy:

Christian missionaries to Africa condemned polygamy, with the result that great numbers of women became “socially superfluous”. Many went to the cities and became prostitutes. Missionaries to North America had a similar effect when, discovering the informal family arrangements between many white settlers and native American women, they accused the natives of immorality and prostitution. Protestant women in pioneering settlements adopted the missionary position – or rather, supported the missionaries’ point of view – with the result that Indian women lost the status and respect they had enjoyed from the earlier white settlers. Interracial marriages died out, while prostitution flourished.–Love for Sale: a global history of prostitution by Nils Ringdal

that could be where prostitution comes from mostly.

Of course, the Psychopaths make money off Porn which feeds off enforced monogomy and the ban on tantra knowledge. Porn http://whale.to/b/porn_h.html breeds impotence and rape http://whale.to/a/rape_h.htmlAlso not helped by the attack on mother child bonding http://whale.to/a/bonding_h.html hence circumcision, bottlefeeding, no holding beliefs etc.

That no contraception thing of the Catholics is another mind–f***, isn’t it, it must create anxiety every time. They say sperm can leak out with the seminal fluid but I am not a great believer in that one, we haven’t used contraception for 19 years and only have 2 kids, one planned and the other wanted.

john

Yes John. Wonderful to shead light on all of this. It is very empowering as a man to be able to choose whether to have multiple orgasms and/or to ejaculate. The “controllers” make sure that they fill us with religious contraints and even physical mutilation at a young age through circumcision and a list of rules a mile long about what is bad, wrong and shameful. Then of course there is the venerial disease hoax…AIDS for example is just poisoning of the body…they got it going in Africa by giving people the Small pox vaccine…. VACCINES are poison…hope folks know that. If you have been vaccinated the best way to get the liquid mercury and aluminum out of the body is to eat raw cheese ALONE…the raw cheese acts as a MAGNET for all the poisons stored in the stomach from the vaccine and the raw cheese draws out the poisons. BUT eat the RAW cheese ALONE.

The native life you describe was probably quite beautiful. i had a lovely Thai lady over last weekend and she couldn’t get enough of playing on my orgonite Qi Gong pads and then moving the energy that eminated from the Orgone Howitzer in the livingroom. Pure delight…she could feel the energy in a very tangible manner. Then my boosting partner called (she is out of the country) and the two of them had a delightful conversation. I noticed my feelings when the two of them were talking and how much residual shame, guilt and fear came up for me from when I grew up as a Catholic…good to discard this and allow it to dissolve…bye bye.

I must say that when I was first exposed to a lot of this information i thought it was very far-fetched, but over time gave it a try. Like orgonite I suppose…thought at the beginning it was far-fetched but decided to give it a try and have never looked back since. I do believe that orgonite and the joy of pleasure and the playing with energy somehow all goes together… I would say that as we gain more experience and awareness of the energy that sexual energy becomes very powerful “pro-youthing” medicine.

All the best…hkj

thanks, I wanted a reason to eat cheese

not sure what you mean about venerial disease hoax?

I don’t think aids is a viral disease, it was more likely just the usual nasty vaccine additives plus a few more, then they made out it was a new disease–then they created the epidemic by azt and having 25 other diseases in the aids umbrella. The HIV test is the gateway to all of that. http://whale.to/b/rappoport.html I did a personality profile of Allopathy Inc/AIDS Inc http://whale.to/b/allopathy_in……ality.html

Eg the Oral Polio Vaccine killed 600 African kids not long ago http://whale.to/a/nkuba_h.html

never had the Catholic script, we were sort of lapsed prots, so Catholic lite. My wifes mother (Catholic) used to undress in the dark! She (my wife) went to Convent and suffered Nuns, guess they were mostly lesbians, we know most priests are gay.

How do you reward a pedophile? Give him another Parish!

I proved that energy thing re ejaculation about 20 years ago when I spent few days on psychedelics then ejaculated–I had to lie down for a day or two. Can’t recall ever being that ill, certainly never had to spend day in bed before or since.

That book reminded me again about the point of sex–exchange of chi. I must have been abused as a kid, could have been as simple as a Nanny ‘disaproving of an erection’ which reminds me–my bro in law bought a stallion that belonged to the Queen, he got it cheap as it had erection problem–they used to throw cold water on his erection, if he had one and the queen was coming around. Anyway, never have orgasm, broke through the denial years ago. Wonder how many men think they orgasm but don’t. Had two using psychedelics.

john

This guys comment re religion destroying spirituality set me thinking.

“Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality.”–Michael Ellner

I did ask him how he though religion did that but he said something like his concept of spirituality was personal, and then went to ground.

But it is down to suppressing sexuality essentially:

http://www.whale.to/b/suppressing_sexuality_h.html

that you can use sex for spiritual practice must be the the main antithesis to (authoritarian) religions.

I guess authoritarianism is the same as fascism, just reading Reich on that.

essentially I think patriarchy/fascism is rule by Psychopaths, as male psychopaths outnumber female 8-1.

I have gone from mildly interested to virtually amazed with this information. I started putting some of the main ideas into practice after reading the material and I must say that my energy and overall vitality is heading to another level.

The emotion and passion I have toward my wife now is very healing for both of us. I feel more inspired and somehow better connected with my purpose after practicing these techniques for less than two weeks.

“Preserving the man’s essense” has been revolutionary and I don’t think I can go back to the old way of thinking. Like orgonite, this information is another ‘game-changer’ in my opinion to set us back on a course of more healthful, truthful, and healing relationships.

Thanks to John and HKJ for your courage to make this information known. The deep programming of the current dysfunctional view of sex is really going to fall apart fast as more men and women put this ancient knowledge into practice, I think.

Toby

As for Tantric esoteric sex, this Manual is not a thinly disguised mish-mash of other previously written books on the Tao of this, that or the other. The great fault of other sex publications, that refer to esoteric traditions, is that they swamp the reader with supernatural knowledge that is of special interest to only a select few – usually cranks! Especially so, when pure doctrines are polluted by the mystic bias of modern authors. To invite ordinary people to discover the delights of the Oriental Bedroom Arts, and then ‘like a sprat to catch a mackerel’, unleash a deluge of pseudo sermons in an attempt to convert the reader into a self-deluding fanatic, is a farce. And I will have nothing to do with it. Vain men and women of ordinary talent have already successfully exploited the Hari-Krishna mentality of a growing salvation market. To call oneself a Taoist (which I am not) is not only an elitist ego trip, it is also a contradiction in terms.

Excellent! I really love how the author bashes alopathic “sex therapists” as well as “new age witch doctors” throught the his writting, the hallmark of a geniune health book!

Many thanks to both Johns for this!

cheers,

Alejandro

This is so very cool. I’m glad this is coming together for everyone to explore at their leisure. It is my feeling too that Dr. Reich was way ahead of the curve on this and developed a connection between authentic love-based sexuality and orgone.

I grew up Catholic in a small polluted mining town in Northern Canada. I didn’t have a CLUE about any of this, so if I can explore it then there’s hope for everyone. Sounds like Toby has moved to a point of blossoming with his loved-one in two weeks what was for me 6 months or MORE…so well done. These types of activities have profound ripple effects into all sectors of ones life. Try pouring your orgasms and intensity and pleasure and heart opening into all the orgonite you’ve gifted, your CB, all the CB’s, your goals, your bank account…and then invite the angel of a thousand orgasms to pay a visit to the government psychic spying on you…hmmm that is always fun…the angel of a thousand orgasms is one very very bright and delightful being…it gets fun.

On a practical level too. I have noticed that during love making that if I get close to ejaculation (and its not where I am choosing to go at that time) then a very effective way to move the energy from that area is to take the energy that is building in the genitial area and to channel it up my CB outside my house. This has worked many times. I’ve never shared this with anyone and I’m sure you won’t find it in a book. But try it and see if it works for you. I think the main reason men ejaculate with no control is because the energy and focus builds and builds in the genital area and so has nowhere to go but blasting out the penis. With this “CB method” the man is sending this energy out the CB and into the atmosphere for healing and positive effect. I do find that I point my left hand out toward the CB outside when doing this…like a form of “bedroom qi gong”. “Honey what are you doing?” my lover will ask…“ahh oh just helping the angels to giggle…thats all.”

Enjoy the ride…love love hkj

This definitely goes along with the spirit of Reich´s work.

ORGIASTIC POTENCY: Ability to surrender to the flow without any inhibition. Complete surrender to the sexual act. “This is always lacking in neurotic individuals.” Few people mature with complete orgiastic potency. Full orgasm can only happen in 4 ways, held Reich:

  1. If people love each other and can express this love
  2. When both people are free of armor, then involuntary muscular movements occur before climax
  3. Breathing should be deep, full, pleasurable
  4. Shortly before orgasm both sexes should experience deep, delicious current-like sensations running up and down bodies. Armoriing cuts this off. Otherwise, climax in loins only. Not throughout body.

Reich saw ability to lose ourselves in sexual ecstasy as the ultimate measure of well being. [/quote:pt1ls30a]

Ejaculation control was probably the only thing that Reich was missing in all this, but the idea is the same.

Back to the book, I read the whole thing in one sitting, couldn´t put it down. Already put some of the basics into practice, it works! I believe this is invaluable for us warriors to remain healthy, strong and of course happy, also as HKJ mentions it can be a weapon in of itself. I have been interested in the topic for a while but all the literature I had read seemed new-agey or otherwise confusing. This book/manual is a gem!

Good to hear. I must have bought it (self published) in 1993, as I rang the bookshop and that was their last order. They have his address as Studio, 171 St Annes Street, London SE18 02088551411. I may try and get hold of him to get his blessing on having the book online.

I have done a few books on lulu.com, they come out at about 4-6£ each, posted from usa to uk.

I met a guy who was Tantric 25 years ago, he started with Tantra by Omar Garrison. He was also similar to John Lilly in his use of lsd, so was aware of human programming from that direction. I think he used to spend days having sex with his then wife. His last woman said similar stuff, but he was very high energy guy. He gave her an orgasm in a supermarket once, from 5 or so yards away [Image Can Not Be Found]

BTW Just done Lilly book on human software http://www.whale.to/b/lilly_b1.html Bit much for my brain but his ‘self metaprogrammer’ is a good concept

I did attend a few Mantak Chia lectures. I tried his micro orbit meditation and I think the energy fires around that, then you orgasm from the navel point, but have yet to prove that, but I think that is the main reason for early cord cutting, to traumatise the navel point and kill orgasm and anything above, as that is also the entry point for any spiritual state above orgasm. On the Indian system the energy rises from base to sex centre, then to navel, or just sex to navel.

I bought a book called Masturbation and Tantra years ago, had a good look at it one week but didn’t buy, went back next week and bought it, the guy at the desk said ‘I thought you’d come back and buy that!’ [Image Can Not Be Found];

anyway, this lady met a similar guy to my tantra man, but she used to masturbate and bring the energy up to her heart and open her heart chakra, she said just before orgasm the channel opens up or a lock opens. Tried it but never any luck, must be a big lock on mine

"A man who doesn’t have good sex resents life living itself; he wants to force and control it; he identifies with priests; he thinks business and sport, war and politics are more important than home building and garden tending, wife cultivating and child rearing; he no longer remembers his youth; his feelings, like his environment, are simply something to be dominated and destroyed; he is not moved by the Living……—-J.James

Thx John, I think psychedelics are very dangerous and people should stay the hell away from them, esp if they are involved in the kind of work we are doing. Any kind of “extrasensory” or “mystical” experience with these substances is not nearly as valuable as when that is achieved sober. Doing psychedelics is forcing yourself to experience things you just might not be ready to experience and that can be very traumatic and even lead to psychological problems. I do not say this as an armchair specialist, when I was younger I tried many psychedelic plants or “powerplants” including san pedro, peyote, ayahuasca, pselocibe cubensis, high doses of hash and even angel´s trumpet (that last one was terrible idea) . All very fun until I was almost hijacked by some kind of malignant entities (with mushrooms), cried out for help and got saved that time but got a very clear message “stop messing around with this stuff, we won´t save your a$$ every time” , so I did just that. I fact I think the only reason people do not just go insane or get otherwise messed up by taking these substances is because they have “someone” (operators) looking out for them. They do loose their patience eventually though if you don´t listen to their ques. These drugs open you up bigtime to attacks and turn you your energy field into swiss cheese. All the people I have met who kept doing them and promote them as “the salvation of human kind” and as “expanders of conciousness” are all deadbeats and have done nothing productive with their lives, of course there may be exceptions from this, and the use of them has helped some people. I just think its a huge gamble and for people involved in fighting the sewer rats a really terrible idea!

Back to the thread subject, the reason I think this book/manual is so good is precisely because it is devoid of the mystical meanderings of most “tantra” and “tao of sex” books out there. Very strait to the point and practical, it does not promote any ideology, philosophy or religious views. In fact the author relentlessly bashes newagers throught the whole book. I also think that reading too much on the subject is counterproductive, love-making is intuitive and not intelectual, just practicing the tecniques and refining them to suit your own style should be enough. Having a whole bunch of yoga-nonsense in your head probably doesn´t help. Making your wife orgasm in a supermarkets seems really stupid to me, they were probably both on acid on the time, or he made it up to impress his followers .

Ale

You don’t have to tell me about the dark side to psychedelics. I have had the good, the bad, and the ugly. My first lsd trip I spent 5 hours or so in shitsville (proving the ‘set’ adage). The next day I woke up and had the most indescribably terrible feeling, one you wouldn’t want to live with without slitting your wrists, so I had a 1. fearful realisation I had induced something in myself like shizophrenia or a similar psychosis, and 2. a dire realisation/fear that I had just kicked my life into touch. The fact I came out of my drug experiences without dying, losing my mind, or destroying my family, was purely down to the grace of god, and god took me through the good, bad and ugly, and maybe I learnt more with the ugly. My bent is the truth and I prefer to find the truth about a subject, and Power has created me for that end. I also felt Power via psychedelics, so that was the good side, but I was lucky to have the good karma. In many ways I am the exception that proves the rule on psychedelics.

I agree about too much info, Mantak Chia can be like that, he has 10 books out now. That guy doesn’t have any followers, he is an alcoholic now, or always was probably. But that is another story. I read today that drug ‘experts’ reckon alcohol is more dangerous than any other, and I can believe that. I know more people destroyed by alcohol than psychedelics.

I really do find that “1. If people love each other and can express this love” from ORGIASTIC POTENCY to be actually number ONE. I find that all the techniques and energy tricks will be meaningless if LOVE and RESPECT are not in place. Deep meaningful eye contact with love is delightful…like a delicious creamy dessert on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

The reason I recommend Mantak Chia’s books is because they give people some clear ideas on how to strengthen sexual understanding, intimacy and connection. I haven’t read a book on this stuff in years. There is indeed a dark side to the life of Mantak Chia, but hey that is just sometimes the way it is, no point in throwing out all his work just because he’s not a living saint.

Sometimes the most potent ones are the people who write no books at all. I’ve listened to the interviews of Nityama and learned a lot. I’ve never met him but friends have and he’s quite energetically potent. Interviews and the video of his table session are here:

http://www.nityama.com/blog

I have very LITTLE experience with psychedelics and all that stuff. I was never drawn to it like some others, yet I’m sure it has its value in the scheme of things. I like to have my clarity when gifting, boosting and orgasmic boosting…for me seeing a sylph makes the little boy in me dance with delight and that little boy likes to be more clear.

I have found too that a capacity to laugh and laugh and laugh is a great way to expand the orgasmic potential. I think genuine belly laughs and orgasms are partially related in some way, but I have little proof of that. My boosting partner and i are almost always giggling away…mostly because we find life so ridiculous. Sex is quite ridiculous…watch yourself in the mirror next time…you will probably roar with laughter.

Awesome thread…thanks for ALL your contributions…hkj

Thanks for posting this information. I may have never been exposed to “the truth” regarding sex. Oh wait’ sex ed, at catholic school. I forgot Life is getting better all the time.

Kelly didn’t like the feel of Mantak Chia, which was interesting, but you can learn stuff from anyone, my biggest teacher was/is a pretty big asshole, service to self sort of guy, probably 1.1 on the tone scale, or worse. But he brought the Assemblage Point knowledge to general awareness, and he, at worst, served as a terrible warning, and proved the adage that lsd was designed to keep spiritual people as Pyjama people.

I did listen to some sex guru saying you shouldn’t kiss, his tape went in the bin pretty soon after. We all are different, or rather have different damage, i used dope to open my heart and get in touch with feelings, as I was abused as a kid, and my mother rejected me. I do get tenderness on dope but it isn’t something I use much, if at all, once last year for sex. With good sex you can open the heart—when my partner and i reconnected she looked exactly the same as she did (in the photos) the day after she had given birth, ie v. loving. But normal life, 2 kids, numerous animals, school runs etc, does’t help.

I used to have long belly laughs on one psychedelic, the kids loved it, but that was 20 years ago. One thing that psychedelic did for me was to get rid of my spiritual questing, I learnt after 2-3 years, from John Lilly at the end, as Don Juan said–all paths lead nowhere. That freed up a lot of brain space, and gave me the insight to the spiritual game.

BTW In the warrior path teachings it says the purpose to life is Pleasure and Knowledge.

and I sometimes get folk trying to tempt me into trying to prove god exists, vaccines don’t work etc. The only entity I have to prove things to is my skeptic, once he is out the way I move onto the next subject. I tend to agree with this quote: Unless we are asked for help, qualified to give it, and are receiving some kind of remuneration for this service, it is spiritually forbidden to try to change people’s minds.

btw the skeptic outfits on the net are elite pseudo-skeptics

I like that “all pathes lead nowhere.” Thats a good one. Very relaxing actually. I think the expectation that a certain teacher or individual is going to have all the answers and be perfect is very unrealistic. I think you can apply that to any skill one learns on the planet. But eventually over time with diligence and persistence the tapestry of what “works” becomes more clear. i think too that the SIMPLE becomes the higher practice. Like deep eye contact while joined together with your lover, having her experience orgasm while on the motorcycle (careful with this one), making love while on the ferry boat (wow this was a big one for me…i felt like such a bad boy…my mommy would not have approved…we had even more laughs imagining the proposal to the ferry company for a special room for such activities).

I think that as many “techniques” one is exposed to the bottom line is “sexuality” is very very spontaneous and somewhat uncontrollable. Thats why i think the “controllers” want to lock people in either a prison of physical porn or a religious jail of shame etc. or also the recent big-one of the fear of catching venerial disease. Live a clean life and you won’t catch anything from anyone. Viruses are NOT living things…they are detox protein solvents. Viruses are no more living than TIDE SOAP to wash your clothes. there is also the fear of getting pregnant but if a man has control then there is no problem. Aajonus Vonderplanitz proved that “pre-cum” contains no sperm and also contains plenty of amonia to kill any sperm and to clean the pathway so that IF the man does ejaculate the pathway is clean. Thus you cannot get the woman pregnant on pre-cum alone. That said the man definitely needs to develop control and energy awareness so that if he does ejaculate he sees it coming a mile ahead of time…this takes practice. Masturbation is no more a sin than trimming your toenails…but of course this big no-no on this practrice leads to all kinds of suffering that the ghouls are more than happy to feed on…it’s fascinating.

i do hope these discoveries have some value in your life and make the experience of pleasure more deepening…

all the best…hkj

I can believe no sperm comes out like that, must have had 15 years of no contraception. God knows what the pill does to you long term, but worrying about pregnancy is a mild attack on sexuality, more so with that Catholic thing and no knowledge of semen retention. That book is the best bit of knowledge a man can have, especially if he is damaged sexually.

‘All roads lead no where’ is a good bit of Knowledge, most Gurus don’t tell you that, they probably don’t know anyway

the other useful one is “We are not human beings here for a spiritual experience, but spiritual beings here for a human experience.”—-Dannion Brinkley.

you can glean from them that Spirit is running the show here.

on the subject of lsd, it was allowed to proliferate to kill various movements:

as lennon said “We must always remember to thank the CIA and the Army for LSD. That’s what people forget. Everything is the opposite of what it is, isn’t it, Harry? So get out the bottle, boy… and relax. They invented LSD to control people and what they did was give us freedom. Sometimes it works in mysterious ways its wonders to perform.” http://www.whale.to/b/lennon1.html

didn’t know lennon may have been replaced http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2010/0 … brity.html

they give you short term spiritual freedom, so you wont look at the walls they are building around you, then they pull the plug on that too.

"Hippies came out of no where and sort of co opted it, I think it was quite deliberate…they wanted to give the anti-war movement a face that would be completely unacceptable to mainstream america…I mean everything about them was offensive to mainstream america, to middle america, the hairstyles, the clothing styles, the open drug use, the music, everything about them was designed to repell mainstream ameica and prevent the anti-war movement from gaining any additional speed by putting this face on it…I think the whole hippy flowerchild thing…was a creation of the Intelligence community to take the steam out of the anti-war movements and various other movements…Black Empowerment, Women’s rights, Civil rights movement. (25:29)
….The battlecry of the hippy movement was turn on, tune in, drop out…telling people don’t worry about it, get high>2(49:13). dave McGowan http://zephreport.podomatic.com/entry/2 … 6_49-08_00

The figureheads of all the big LC bands–Frank Zappa…John Phillips…Jim Morrison…David Crosby…Steven Stills, on and on, every one of these guys is a product of the military intelligence establishment…I find it evry hard to believe that the only people in the country who had musical talent happened to eb sons and daughters of the Military community…Jackson Brown, Emy Lou Harris…

Some of them knew too much, maybe others just for the sensationalism and the trauma it inflicts on the American people…I believe thatw as the main motivation for taking out Kennedy…hsi death was hugely traumatic to the American people…

Thanks for posting all of this John. I also find the books on Mind Control Slaves very co-related to all of this. It helps to put into perspective the true potent power of sexuality. It seems the Illuminati use it to traumatize and sodomize and anchor their mind control programs deep into a mind control slave, that along with death and deep fear and manipulation. On the other end of the continuum…The sparkling, shining and multi-orgasmic happy crowd on the other hand engage in sexual union as a heart-centred celebration of joy, giggles and freeing PLAY as a way of communing with the “operators” and accessing deep healing and spreading the vibe of happiness on the planet. Both ends of the continuum are quite powerful … one is very ugly and one is very beautiful, natural and simple.

Thanks again for spreading light on all of this, it’s a HUGE topic. It’s amazing how masterful the illuminati are at distracting us from what is REAL and genuine. Maybe it’s the skill of true energetic discernment we really need to learn, and then we can move on from needing to have the illuminati in our reality.

hkj

the illuminati are the reptilians IMO, they are mostly etheric parasites, hence their power.

I see this place as a spaceship called mother earth, a living spaceship called earth, which plays the part of mother, hence the term ‘mother earth’. Our feet energy centre is anchored at the centre of earth, the base chakra is Earth, and Navel point is Mother, so you can feel mother earth by concentrating at the navel point, and earth using base centre. Father is crown chakra, connected to future, spiritual knowledge etc.

Pretty neat to create something like that, can’t think of a more perfect reality to live in off hand, it is prefection if you are in the right place, and perfection is the first state of satori anyway, so you can still feel prefection wherever you are , in theory.

If you watch Avatar you can get an example of what this place looks like when you are in Perfection/Beauty, it looks like Pandora, and you can feel the connection to Nature, Trees, nature Spirits, Animals. Love of animals has been called a minor enlightenment, same with Love of nature or Earth, just spiritual awareness, self-awareness.

Then there is another energy which is the Christ energy, Goddess, Mother Magdalen, jesus energy based in the heart, which is almost like a fusing of Earth and father energy, two energies coming together.

so one energy body connects with the earth like a lifeline, this must have been the one Don Juan was playing with when he used to jump over trees. he gave that up when the Indians thought he was a bird and took pot shots at him

and another spirit body connects to Father and is where you go when you die, back into spirit, your soul body, which is why it is pretty silly to get too connected to the physical body. Part of me is looking forward to what Carol called --‘going home’, dying.